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NanoGPT on the THORChain Podcast

Jun 14, 2026
NanoGPT on the THORChain Podcast

Milan joined the THORChain live stream podcast on June 13 for a long conversation about NanoGPT, crypto payments, privacy, AI access, and decentralized liquidity.

Full episode on X. Also on YouTube.

This was a fun one because there is a lot of overlap between what THORChain is trying to do and what we care about at NanoGPT: native assets, self-custody, fewer middlemen, and making useful tools available without asking users for a pile of personal information first.

Some of the main topics:

  • How Milan first got into Bitcoin in 2012 through an online game
  • Working on crypto policy at the Dutch central bank, and why that was both interesting and frustrating
  • How NanoGPT started as a small Telegram bot where people could pay tiny amounts of Nano to use ChatGPT
  • Why pay-as-you-go AI is often a better fit than monthly subscriptions
  • How NanoGPT routes across many AI providers, and why Auto Model and Coding Router exist
  • Why privacy matters for AI access, including TEE models, Private Mode, local models, and PII redaction
  • What our monthly crypto payment stats show about which coins people actually spend
  • Why THORChain matters to us as a way to accept more native assets without relying as much on centralized exchanges
  • The weirdness of having an exchange account frozen over a normal small Dogecoin payment because of old UTXO history
  • Whether Nano could eventually make sense on THORChain

The episode is long and informal, in a good way. It covers NanoGPT, central banking, crypto payments, Monero, Bitcoin Lightning, Nano, THORChain, AI tooling, and a lot of the general "why are we building any of this?" stuff.

If those topics sound interesting, listen to the full episode. The conversation is better than a written recap.

Milan de Reede

Milan de Reede

CEO & Co-Founder

milan@nano-gpt.com
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